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[Justin Garcia]

Oh, Jesus Christ, I leave for a bit and you have the Dali Momma over here stinkin up my thread with this nonsense!?

People, stop trying to compute the information put forth by ancient texts through some muddled, smoky lens. Read the fucking things they say, apply logic and reason, then conclude where they fall on the bullshit scale. Whereas it is imensely impressive, imo, to memorize ancient text and find scenarios where the s**t may smell like flowers, it hardly overcomes the magnitude of evidence against, along with the lock of evidence for, all it's nonsensical claims.

See, I just wrote a very shallow, generalized attack on what my good friend, yeah we're actually buddies, Rev said and it would hold up against about 99% of what ANY dogma whisperer may try to sell you.

Oh, you're from the States and you're a Christian? How fucking cliche'!

Be good for goodness sake, assholes.

I love you all! 

[Fredson Duff]

Oh, Jesus Christ, I leave for a bit and you have the Dali Momma over here stinkin up my thread with this nonsense!?

People, stop trying to compute the information put forth by ancient texts through some muddled, smoky lens. Read the fucking things they say, apply logic and reason, then conclude where they fall on the bullshit scale. Whereas it is imensely impressive, imo, to memorize ancient text and find scenarios where the s**t may smell like flowers, it hardly overcomes the magnitude of evidence against, along with the lock of evidence for, all it's nonsensical claims.

See, I just wrote a very shallow, generalized attack on what my good friend, yeah we're actually buddies, Rev said and it would hold up against about 99% of what ANY dogma whisperer may try to sell you.

Oh, you're from the States and you're a Christian? How fucking cliche'!

Be good for goodness sake, assholes.

I love you all! 

oops my bad.  no more touchy/feely stuff. i'll try to be more cynical, logical, rational, skeptical and real. again my bad.
 

 

[Justin Garcia]

You are forgiven, my son. If you eat you eat me, I'll let you live in my dad's house forever.

[Fredson Duff]

You are forgiven, my son. If you eat you eat me, I'll let you live in my dad's house forever.

brother... you put the "A" into theism.   

[Justin Garcia]

 

[leftarmbar]

There's nothing funnier than over passionate atheists. Humans in general need faith, whether it be in belief or unbelief. It's because our makeup is so egocentric; it really has nothing to do with God but more about ourselves being right. It's just comical that people who truly believe in nothing have to tell everybody that they are right. It's as bad as close minded religious zealots.

You are a perfect mixture of smug and retarded.

Since when is atheism nihilism?
Stephen Hawking is an atheist  and I'm fairly sure the nuance and overall scope of his belief in mathematics makes your peanut brained postulations look about as sophisticated as my dog's mental prowess when I pretend to throw the ball and instead hide it behind my back.  


Faith is a requirement for existence because otherwise we would have to retest every assumption we use in our day to day lives. Will an orange kill me? It didn't yesterday but it may today? Will fire burn me, it did yesterday but it may not this time etc etc.  

We then see where faith becomes a requirement for learning and the basis of all mundane experience. 90% of the time this "egocentric" need for faith allows me to board an airplane with out having to receive a run down of proofs for the basic premises of aeronautics because I have faith that the plane will fly based on my prior experience of it doing such.

There are whole books on this subject, it goes a bit further than your moronic anti-atheist zealotry.  

[reverend]

Oh, Jesus Christ, I leave for a bit and you have the Dali Momma over here stinkin up my thread with this nonsense!?

People, stop trying to compute the information put forth by ancient texts through some muddled, smoky lens. Read the fucking things they say, apply logic and reason, then conclude where they fall on the bullshit scale. Whereas it is imensely impressive, imo, to memorize ancient text and find scenarios where the s**t may smell like flowers, it hardly overcomes the magnitude of evidence against, along with the lock of evidence for, all it's nonsensical claims.

See, I just wrote a very shallow, generalized attack on what my good friend, yeah we're actually buddies, Rev said and it would hold up against about 99% of what ANY dogma whisperer may try to sell you.

Oh, you're from the States and you're a Christian? How fucking cliche'!

Be good for goodness sake, assholes.

I love you all! 

so you moronic one trick pony, many of your little minions will fall for your unscientific rhetoric, but I will not.   You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.  When translating ancient text it is absolutely essential that you identify what kind of writing it is, poetry, prose, historical, metaphorical, apocolyptic ect..  In addition, you must also figure out what certain ideas, and words meant within their cultural context.  If you told my mom "for the reals" she would think you were a retard, which isn't far from the truth.  To apply proper, interpretive techniques to any ancient work requires a great deal of work.  When you have done that work, and you still have problems, I will listen to you, until then you are just a dwarf island mexican who thinks he is more inteligent than he is.

Wow another loud mouth obnoxious atheist in the days of Dawkins and Hitchens, how cliche!!!

the rev
"christian anarchist, pacifist, activist and ghetto dweller"

ps

I love you monkey boy 

[Johnny Bombs]

I would like to know why everyone believes all mthe ancient test BULLSHIT

why has over 2,000 years have passed and there was not one thing that even comes close to proving there is any type of god

the american indians believed in there god, did that mean they all went to hell because they didnt believe in jesus?

it doesnt make sense to me , all these storys ... no proof, yet people recite the bible like it means something

so that means the muslims are wrong or the jews or budists etc etc

iam calling bullshit

people preached the earth was flat until they was proven wrong

2,000 years and not a smidge of evidence ,hmmmmmmmmmm

[reverend]

well actually there is quite a bit of evidence, for many different things.  Which things are you specifically interested in?

But yeah, the bible does mean something.  There are many very amazing things in it whether you believe in God or not. 

As for the indians and "there" gods, well I think you will find that there are actually no american indians, indians are from India.  The indigenous people of the Americas did have many Gods.  If you were to refer to the god's they have, suggesting possession you would actually use the word "their".     Perhaps you don't believe in proper English structure and vocabulary either.  Has there not been enough proof of its existence? 

rev

ps

apparently it is more fun and effective to not really argue, but just be an asshole to people, so I am giving it a try.  I predict it will lead to world peace

[paully1976]

See that's why Catholics RULE. You've got to get a little GOD in you.

interesting euphemism for pederasty there

[Johnny Bombs]

rev , that does  makes alot of sense ,
point out i can not write, thus i can not think thus you win the argument

plus it is fun

anyways

you said there is alot of proof, could you let me in on a few cases ?

thanks

only been 2000 years , i would love to hear a few of the storys since

[Justin Garcia]

Oh, Jesus Christ, I leave for a bit and you have the Dali Momma over here stinkin up my thread with this nonsense!?

People, stop trying to compute the information put forth by ancient texts through some muddled, smoky lens. Read the fucking things they say, apply logic and reason, then conclude where they fall on the bullshit scale. Whereas it is imensely impressive, imo, to memorize ancient text and find scenarios where the s**t may smell like flowers, it hardly overcomes the magnitude of evidence against, along with the lock of evidence for, all it's nonsensical claims.

See, I just wrote a very shallow, generalized attack on what my good friend, yeah we're actually buddies, Rev said and it would hold up against about 99% of what ANY dogma whisperer may try to sell you.

Oh, you're from the States and you're a Christian? How fucking cliche'!

Be good for goodness sake, assholes.

I love you all! 

so you moronic one trick pony, many of your little minions will fall for your unscientific rhetoric, but I will not.   You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.  When translating ancient text it is absolutely essential that you identify what kind of writing it is, poetry, prose, historical, metaphorical, apocolyptic ect..  In addition, you must also figure out what certain ideas, and words meant within their cultural context.  If you told my mom "for the reals" she would think you were a retard, which isn't far from the truth.  To apply proper, interpretive techniques to any ancient work requires a great deal of work.  When you have done that work, and you still have problems, I will listen to you, until then you are just a dwarf island mexican who thinks he is more inteligent than he is.

Wow another loud mouth obnoxious atheist in the days of Dawkins and Hitchens, how cliche!!!

the rev
"christian anarchist, pacifist, activist and ghetto dweller"

ps

I love you monkey boy 

Oh s**t, it's the Dogma Whisperer himself! Now first off, I'm think I'm WAYYYYYY smarter than I actually am, but I take offense to you just spreading that s**t out there like that...

But to the matter of your ancient comic books, your explanation is precisely what I'm referring to. One of my biggest flaws when arguing with a Dogmaniac used to be the ease in which I'd follow them into the layers of their writings. I'm from New York. We like the bullshit cut out of things because time is always in short supply. Especially when you're 5'5". See, I give very little f**k about the context of the bible, torah, koran, etc... because I just want to know your "point", or "proof", or "shtick", if you will.

I appreciate what you're saying in respect to the context in which you have to read the obsol...err, classic tales of wonderment, but you know what? Do that for me. Get to the next part where your story makes an ounce of fucking sense.

How's that?  

~Island Mexican Monkey

Ps: I'm way funnier than those other two, just maybe not as paid.  

[reverend]

 

You see ignoramus, when discussing complete world views, spirituality, and the nature of ancient manuscripts you can't actually narrow it down to a three sentence "schtick".  Which basically means that you don't have the ability to actually follow it through.  Because I will be half way through and you will go wandering after a butterfly...

probably tattoo'd on some porno princess' ass.

So let me try and make it quick for you

there is no evidence in all of scientific inquiry, that suggests that life has ever, or will ever come from non living matter, except for the stupid circular reasoning that, well there has to be because we are here.  In addition, the very things that give life meaning: love, virtue, and even scientific curiousity, all come from a different source than the purely physical   and the looking into this other realm is in fact a very human, natural occurence.  And finally when I find something to be true over and over again, and have experiences that continue to "prove" something, subjectively to me, then I will continue to believe that until I find evidence that I am incorrect.  I have not found any, and your profound insults do nothing to shake my thinking.

btw, I am sorry that God made you so ugly, and I would be inspired to doubt Him too if I were you

rev

[bhfsim]

There's nothing funnier than over passionate atheists. Humans in general need faith, whether it be in belief or unbelief. It's because our makeup is so egocentric; it really has nothing to do with God but more about ourselves being right. It's just comical that people who truly believe in nothing have to tell everybody that they are right. It's as bad as close minded religious zealots.

You are a perfect mixture of smug and retarded.

Since when is atheism nihilism?
Stephen Hawking is an atheist  and I'm fairly sure the nuance and overall scope of his belief in mathematics makes your peanut brained postulations look about as sophisticated as my dog's mental prowess when I pretend to throw the ball and instead hide it behind my back.  


Faith is a requirement for existence because otherwise we would have to retest every assumption we use in our day to day lives. Will an orange kill me? It didn't yesterday but it may today? Will fire burn me, it did yesterday but it may not this time etc etc.  

We then see where faith becomes a requirement for learning and the basis of all mundane experience. 90% of the time this "egocentric" need for faith allows me to board an airplane with out having to receive a run down of proofs for the basic premises of aeronautics because I have faith that the plane will fly based on my prior experience of it doing such.

There are whole books on this subject, it goes a bit further than your moronic anti-atheist zealotry.  

Since when was Hawking an atheist? If you're gonna come at me like that, you should do a little research first. I mean he even talks about God in A Brief History Of Time. While you faked me out on throwing that ball, I typed in a few words and fetched a quote for you... Wikipedia-Hawking has stated that he is "not religious in the normal sense" and he believes that "the universe is governed by the laws of science. The laws may have been decreed by God, but God does not intervene to break the laws."

Now I do understand your point about nihilism and atheism, and you're right... but your grammar sucks and I believe you can list commas along with your fear of oranges and planes.

"God does not play dice with the universe"-Albert Einstein

[Justin Garcia]

There's nothing funnier than over passionate atheists. Humans in general need faith, whether it be in belief or unbelief. It's because our makeup is so egocentric; it really has nothing to do with God but more about ourselves being right. It's just comical that people who truly believe in nothing have to tell everybody that they are right. It's as bad as close minded religious zealots.

You are a perfect mixture of smug and retarded.

Since when is atheism nihilism?
Stephen Hawking is an atheist  and I'm fairly sure the nuance and overall scope of his belief in mathematics makes your peanut brained postulations look about as sophisticated as my dog's mental prowess when I pretend to throw the ball and instead hide it behind my back.  


Faith is a requirement for existence because otherwise we would have to retest every assumption we use in our day to day lives. Will an orange kill me? It didn't yesterday but it may today? Will fire burn me, it did yesterday but it may not this time etc etc.  

We then see where faith becomes a requirement for learning and the basis of all mundane experience. 90% of the time this "egocentric" need for faith allows me to board an airplane with out having to receive a run down of proofs for the basic premises of aeronautics because I have faith that the plane will fly based on my prior experience of it doing such.

There are whole books on this subject, it goes a bit further than your moronic anti-atheist zealotry.  

Since when was Hawking an atheist? If you're gonna come at me like that, you should do a little research first. I mean he even talks about God in A Brief History Of Time. While you faked me out on throwing that ball, I typed in a few words and fetched a quote for you... Wikipedia-Hawking has stated that he is "not religious in the normal sense" and he believes that "the universe is governed by the laws of science. The laws may have been decreed by God, but God does not intervene to break the laws."

Now I do understand your point about nihilism and atheism, and you're right... but your grammar sucks and I believe you can list commas along with your fear of oranges and planes.

"God does not play dice with the universe"-Albert Einstein

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/quentin_smith/hawking.html   

You see ignoramus, when discussing complete world views, spirituality, and the nature of ancient manuscripts you can't actually narrow it down to a three sentence "schtick".  Which basically means that you don't have the ability to actually follow it through.  Because I will be half way through and you will go wandering after a butterfly...

probably tattoo'd on some porno princess' ass.

So let me try and make it quick for you

there is no evidence in all of scientific inquiry, that suggests that life has ever, or will ever come from non living matter, except for the stupid circular reasoning that, well there has to be because we are here.  In addition, the very things that give life meaning: love, virtue, and even scientific curiousity, all come from a different source than the purely physical   and the looking into this other realm is in fact a very human, natural occurence.  And finally when I find something to be true over and over again, and have experiences that continue to "prove" something, subjectively to me, then I will continue to believe that until I find evidence that I am incorrect.  I have not found any, and your profound insults do nothing to shake my thinking.

btw, I am sorry that God made you so ugly, and I would be inspired to doubt Him too if I were you

rev

See, that's what I mean. You make a very logical assertion regarding science's lack of an explanation for the beginning of life, but then you go all fucking Osteen about "feelings" and how they add up to superjew being real. Inconsistency as its best. Science lacks many answers at this time. That is a far cry from religion, who has ALL the answers, but asking them for proof is almost as insulting to them as asking them to PAY FUCKING TAXES!

I beilieve, almost 100%, that YOU believe what you're saying, but please excuse me for throwing up in my mouth a little every time I hear about emotions playing a part in a discussion like this one.

~Chim, God of the Cheesecake

And, btw, in the secular world I'm a piece of ass!