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[Daniel]

I am by no means an advanced practitioner in either art, but I have been on the mat at numerous judo and bjj schools.

I don't know what people will think of the schools here in Richmond, so I won't go on about that.
I have trained at Washington (georgetown) Judo under James Takemori a couple of times, as well as Jeff Ruth's in Arlington under Shin Kim (Olympic Alternate?)(Students not that good, but school training still tough). I spent at least 400+ hours on the mat at Maurice Allan's SportJudo in Alexandria(www.sportjudo.net), where I had the displeasure of the being the little guy and doing randori everynight with two of the better teens in the region and two of the top ranked girls in the country. I took a lot of hard beatings.

On the BJJ side, I trained at Jeff's under guys like Noah Booth and Dave Carter. It was hard training. I trained informally or 'open mat' with people from One Spirit and one of the Yamasaki affiliates out in the boonies.
And of course I have trained at Goatfury's and Eric Burdo's here in Richmond.
I am no expert, but I have at least tried it both ways, with basically legit instructors and schools.

In my experience, judo training is more taxing in most if not all ways; anaerobically and aerobically, psychologically and injury-wise. It also requires more athleticism, strength, speed and power. The only thing that's tougher in BJJ is there's a real advantage to greater flexibility in BJJ that rarely comes up in Judo.
I don't think one is better than the other, they are like sisters, and what would be better than to take both sisters home?
My point is that I am ok sharing my opinion because I've at least tried both.

PS: I have tried to wrestle wrestlers before on more than one occasion, from HS wannabes to Howard starters. I don't think either BJJ or judo can hang there.

Depends on the rules.  If using Jiu-Jitsu rules no-gi grappling, wrestlers have very little chance.  Speaking from experience.  It's not even an argument.  Same with Judo vs. Jiu-Jitsu.

[Hooligan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JsdIAKDXB8

Nuff said...

[Alliance Soldier NYC]

I am by no means an advanced practitioner in either art, but I have been on the mat at numerous judo and bjj schools.

I don't know what people will think of the schools here in Richmond, so I won't go on about that.
I have trained at Washington (georgetown) Judo under James Takemori a couple of times, as well as Jeff Ruth's in Arlington under Shin Kim (Olympic Alternate?)(Students not that good, but school training still tough). I spent at least 400+ hours on the mat at Maurice Allan's SportJudo in Alexandria(www.sportjudo.net), where I had the displeasure of the being the little guy and doing randori everynight with two of the better teens in the region and two of the top ranked girls in the country. I took a lot of hard beatings.

On the BJJ side, I trained at Jeff's under guys like Noah Booth and Dave Carter. It was hard training. I trained informally or 'open mat' with people from One Spirit and one of the Yamasaki affiliates out in the boonies.
And of course I have trained at Goatfury's and Eric Burdo's here in Richmond.
I am no expert, but I have at least tried it both ways, with basically legit instructors and schools.

In my experience, judo training is more taxing in most if not all ways; anaerobically and aerobically, psychologically and injury-wise. It also requires more athleticism, strength, speed and power. The only thing that's tougher in BJJ is there's a real advantage to greater flexibility in BJJ that rarely comes up in Judo.
I don't think one is better than the other, they are like sisters, and what would be better than to take both sisters home?
My point is that I am ok sharing my opinion because I've at least tried both.

PS: I have tried to wrestle wrestlers before on more than one occasion, from HS wannabes to Howard starters. I don't think either BJJ or judo can hang there.

Depends on the rules.  If using Jiu-Jitsu rules no-gi grappling, wrestlers have very little chance.  Speaking from experience.  It's not even an argument.  Same with Judo vs. Jiu-Jitsu.

Yeah if you start with him in your guard.

[SanDaWang]

i've tried to be pretty clear about my admiration for most styles of grappling. My points on wrestling were more about athleticism and conditioning. It's a tough sport.

here's something to the point of the applicability of judo for MMA;

http://www.dailymotion.com/cluster/extreme/video/x4hwfx_cory-devela-vs-joe-riggs_extreme

i like it at about 1:40, or 10 seconds before it's over.

[Macaco_Louco]

What happened with this post, I cant even keep up. Anyway, here is the thing, BJJ has flaws, Judo has flaws, in my eyes, if you do either you shott be great at everything. A good BJJ guy should have great takedowns and throws. Period. A good judo guy should be good on the mat.  The judo rules promote action, stalemate and they stand u up. I wish they would change BJJ rules to some how promote more action.

Judo doesnt have as many of the more detailed moves as BJJ cause there isnt enough time.  Its clean cut basics if you go to a good club. If not you are tought to turtle and wait, thats BS, you are one dimensional in my eyes, same goes with BJJ you might have a sick guard, but if you are useless on your feet you are one sided and beatable, dont care who you are. Be top notch, be deadly from every angle, be well rounded or never make it past the local town fair BJJ titls. haha All I wanna say is Judo has changed my life as far as BJJ goes, it helped me clean my way through to the finals in the pan-ams last year in my weight and open, and I only wish I had the common sence to start at teh same time I started BJJ.
-ML

[livershot]

I have been following this thread for awhile now and I think alot of valid points have been raised for both sports.I am of the opinion that wrestling ,judo,bjj and sambo at least the sport side of these disciplines are all important parts of being a well rounded grappler.I think any real differences outside of the competition rule structures are just the emphasis of the sports themselves.Whether it be the throwing of judo with limited ground work,the takedowns and positional dominance but no submissions of wrestling,the multiple throwing and submission combinations of sambo but with limited time on the ground and no chokes,or the ground engaging chess match that is bjj with little emphasis on how to get to the ground but just get there kind of thinking.I think it is important to cover every base you can and at least learn some basics from another grappling style other than your primary style.I think that one of the great things about living in the U.S. is our exposure to so many different cultures and their arts that it is short sighted to not take advantage of training in other styles.In my schools for instance bjj is the primary art taught but wrestling and judo have and always will be part of the curriculum.If I had the time and the access to really good sambo coach I would also begin to incorporate that style into my teaching.