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[andy ruffner]

"I would much rather get knocked out than lose a decision running backwards...."  Quarry

[BubbaRayGracie]

Found this on the sherdog forum.  Not sure how accurate it is.  If it's true it's a dick thing to do to all the fans that paid for the ppv and there are better ways to voice his opinion on Dana White and Zuffa.

"Just heard Starnes on the radio station from Montreal.

Basically he sets the record straight and backs it up with proof. As many of you know this was his last fight of the UFC contract and he has always voiced his dissatisfaction with his salary. Basically after the Kendall Grove fight where his rib was broken, UFC did NOT cover any medical bills even though it happened on the "work site".

He said that he is one of the many fighters who get injured and never compensated by the UFC. He was well aware that he was on the main card because it was Canada, and this being his last fight he decided to protest in the names of all underpaid fighters and screw over the UFC.
This is NO joke because he claimed that the only reason Dana White officially released the fight bonuses was in order to counter-act the public statement that Starnes is about to make or would have made. However, since the 75k fight bonuses were disclosed Kalib's martyr actions may not be as significant.

Nevertheless, expect an official statement later this week as his gym is holding a official press conference on Wednesday. We all know that the "real" Kalib Starnes would have never fought the way he did and luckily there IS an explanation."

If any of that explanation is true (other than, say, the fight being in Canada), wikipedia should be updated to include a picture of Caleb next to the phrase "cutting of your nose to spite your face."

[Battistelli]

Blame Canada!

[Hooligan]

Blame Canada!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4b0OJJyTe8

[NaTaS]

Not sure how valid the information is but:

http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=6978

Criticized Canadian Calls UFC Contract ‘Most Oppressive’

By Mike Russell (gfn@thefightnetwork.com)

Kalib Starnes on Monday set out to clarify circumstances regarding his pending release from the Ultimate Fighting Championship. He countered a report from Yahoo! Sports’ Kevin Iole in which UFC president Dana White seemed to indicate the Surrey, British Columbia, native had been cut from his contract.

“He just doesn’t belong in the UFC, and after his performance the other night, he should consider a new line of work,” White said, referring to Starnes’ widely criticized effort against Nate Quarry at UFC 83: Serra vs. St. Pierre 2 on Saturday at the Bell Centre in Montreal.

Starnes told The Fight Network that he requested his release from the remainder of his UFC contract, which had been carried over from his appearance on “The Ultimate Fighter” reality series and ensured him three fights per year.

“[UFC matchmaker] Joe Silva told me that it usually takes a couple of days for their legal department to complete the paperwork and that he would send me all of the paperwork to indicate that my contract has been dissolved,” Starnes said. “Later on in the afternoon, after I had spoken to Joe Silva, a story was released by some reporter from Yahoo! in which Dana White said that he had released me from my contract. I received no documentation on that, and it came after I asked to be released.”

Starnes – who dropped a unanimous decision to Quarry and was booed by his fellow Canadians for failing to engage – called White’s comments unprofessional and inappropriate.

“In my opinion, it was inappropriate to make public statements regarding my character and my future and so on the way that he has, especially without having the courage and the respect to call me up and speak with me personally,” Starnes said. “All of these comments come from a man that has never had a fight in his entire life who claims to be the ultimate authority on fighting and courage. I couldn’t be happier than to be released from the most oppressive contract I’ve ever been under in my life.”

According to the American Top Team-trained fighter, injuries led to his switch from an offensive to defensive mode against Quarry. For a majority of the fight, Starnes back pedaled out of harm’s way and away from his opponent’s dangerous punches. A former challenger for the UFC middleweight championship, Quarry battered Starnes with leg kicks throughout the three-round bout.

“Right now, I have a broken foot [that] I sustained with the first kick I threw in the fight,” Starnes said. “My leg is purple and black from my knee up, I have a black eye, a sprained jaw, and he’s questioning my desire to fight? If that isn’t enough to satisfy him and the crowd, I can show them the medical report. I can barely walk. [Quarry] totally destroyed my thigh with those kicks. I’m sure a lot of people would rather see me suffer a traumatic brain injury and be rendered unconscious. That’s too bad. If that’s what they want, they’re paying the wrong guy $10,000 to get his brain smashed in.”

Starnes then invited White to walk a few feet in his shoes.

“Dana White wouldn’t stand and trade with a guy [like Quarry] who had an 80 or 90 percent knockout ratio with injuries like I had Saturday night,” Starnes said. “He wouldn’t cross the street for $10,000. I don’t have anything to prove to anybody. I’m not about to stand there and get smashed to pieces. After I knew my foot was broken, I was trying to back up and work off the jab and keep moving so I didn’t get knocked out.”

Rumors also surfaced Monday that Starnes had dropped a bombshell – that his performance was a direct protest to his pay rate and insurance that he would be let go from the remainder of his contract – on a Montreal radio show following his match with Quarry. Starnes called the rumors ludicrous.

“Any report or rumor that I came on any radio station to comment on the fight or circumstances surrounding the fight or in reference to the UFC or Dana White is completely false,” he said. “I’ve been back in Florida since Sunday, and it was Dana White who decided to come out and publicly attack my character, not the other way around. That’s the way he felt like he should go. Maybe he thinks that character assassination might prevent me from moving on and fighting for another organization or carrying on a career. If he thinks it’s appropriate to attack me, it isn’t.”

[Bone]

I don't understand why Kalib is saying that he had to pay all of his own medical bills, is he not Canadian? Isn't the third best thing in Canada, behind Strip clubs& Beer free health care?

[olFox]

I don't understand why Kalib is saying that he had to pay all of his own medical bills, is he not Canadian? Isn't the third best thing in Canada, behind Strip clubs& Beer free health care?

In BC (he lives in the lower mainland) you actually pay insurance premiums for health care.  You have no choice, if you do not they will take your paycheck.

[Alliance Soldier NYC]

I didnt see the fight but does any of this fall on Quarry? Couldnt he have at least engaged and went in for the kill? Instead of clowning around, do that wierd stretch thing and from what i hear doing the running man at one point? A fight is a 2 sided affair, imagine Kalib pulling this against a guy like Rampage or Silva, what do you think the outcome would have been, 1st round KO most likely.
Not saying that Kalib didnt f**k up but im just pondering on Quarrys role in all of this and comparing it to what other guys would do in that situation, IMO there arent bad fights, there are just bad fighters (plural).
I dont think that one fighters lack of heart and aggression should let the other guy off the hook and give him an easy pass, he should have been held to a standard too, maybe Quarry is just as lacking as a fighter?

[paully1976]

I didnt see the fight but does any of this fall on Quarry? Couldnt he have at least engaged and went in for the kill? Instead of clowning around, do that wierd stretch thing and from what i hear doing the running man at one point? A fight is a 2 sided affair, imagine Kalib pulling this against a guy like Rampage or Silva, what do you think the outcome would have been, 1st round KO most likely.
Not saying that Kalib didnt f**k up but im just pondering on Quarrys role in all of this and comparing it to what other guys would do in that situation, IMO there arent bad fights, there are just bad fighters (plural).
I dont think that one fighters lack of heart and aggression should let the other guy off the hook and give him an easy pass, he should have been held to a standard too, maybe Quarry is just as lacking as a fighter?

just watch the fight   quarry was doing everything short of running into kalib's fists.  it was very frustrating to watch as quarry was doing everything he could to make it a good fight.

[Bone]

I don't understand why Kalib is saying that he had to pay all of his own medical bills, is he not Canadian? Isn't the third best thing in Canada, behind Strip clubs& Beer free health care?

In BC (he lives in the lower mainland) you actually pay insurance premiums for health care.  You have no choice, if you do not they will take your paycheck.

So he was insured

[Alliance Soldier NYC]

I didnt see the fight but does any of this fall on Quarry? Couldnt he have at least engaged and went in for the kill? Instead of clowning around, do that wierd stretch thing and from what i hear doing the running man at one point? A fight is a 2 sided affair, imagine Kalib pulling this against a guy like Rampage or Silva, what do you think the outcome would have been, 1st round KO most likely.
Not saying that Kalib didnt f**k up but im just pondering on Quarrys role in all of this and comparing it to what other guys would do in that situation, IMO there arent bad fights, there are just bad fighters (plural).
I dont think that one fighters lack of heart and aggression should let the other guy off the hook and give him an easy pass, he should have been held to a standard too, maybe Quarry is just as lacking as a fighter?

just watch the fight   quarry was doing everything short of running into kalib's fists.  it was very frustrating to watch as quarry was doing everything he could to make it a good fight.

But still....
Starnes vs. Silva, or Starnes vs. Jackson, or Starnes vs. whoever..

It wasnt a matter of Quarry running into his fists, it is a matter of Quarrys heart as well. When did he unload and go for the kill? At what point does he say "dude, i gotta finish this guy?"

[Rurouni]

I didnt see the fight but does any of this fall on Quarry? Couldnt he have at least engaged and went in for the kill? Instead of clowning around, do that wierd stretch thing and from what i hear doing the running man at one point? A fight is a 2 sided affair, imagine Kalib pulling this against a guy like Rampage or Silva, what do you think the outcome would have been, 1st round KO most likely.
Not saying that Kalib didnt f**k up but im just pondering on Quarrys role in all of this and comparing it to what other guys would do in that situation, IMO there arent bad fights, there are just bad fighters (plural).
I dont think that one fighters lack of heart and aggression should let the other guy off the hook and give him an easy pass, he should have been held to a standard too, maybe Quarry is just as lacking as a fighter?

just watch the fight   quarry was doing everything short of running into kalib's fists.  it was very frustrating to watch as quarry was doing everything he could to make it a good fight.

But still....
Starnes vs. Silva, or Starnes vs. Jackson, or Starnes vs. whoever..

It wasnt a matter of Quarry running into his fists, it is a matter of Quarrys heart as well. When did he unload and go for the kill? At what point does he say "dude, i gotta finish this guy?"

Have you seen the fight yet?  Just watch it.  What more can you do other than constantly advancing?  Starnes wouldn't come in range.  Stranes backed up from the Urkel punch!

http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/2008/04/19/nate-quarry-vs-kalib-starnes-video-ufc-83/

If you watch Rd 3 with about 40 seconds left, Starnes turns his back after a leg kick and looks like he tries to run but goes straight into the fence and has to turn back around. lol

[TheTrain]

Starnes is lucky I'm not Dana White.  I would have been more to the point in my press release.

wtf is a fighter saying he didn't want to get hit or engage?  why fight then?

[underdog]

[Alliance Soldier NYC]

I wonder if the UFC will adopt new rules due to this, like calling a fight if one fighter chooses not to engage after a certain amount of warnings.