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    Author Topic: NAGA allows Heelhooks, Toeholds, Neck cranks, etc.. In Beginners-Opinions.  (Read 5554 times)
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    « Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 07:00:21 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions
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    « Reply #16 on: October 26, 2008, 07:14:49 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.
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    « Reply #17 on: October 26, 2008, 07:22:33 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?
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    « Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 07:34:19 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?

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    « Reply #19 on: October 26, 2008, 07:42:15 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?

    I think you meant to quote Kenny.
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    « Reply #20 on: October 26, 2008, 07:49:15 PM »

    Completely BS.

    To the guys who say - you are an adult - tap out.  Then what about slamming, fishhooking, small joint manipulation, eye gouge, etc...  These techniques are not striking.  You can just tap if it hurts.  If you believe that you are not welcome around me or my students.  If these rules are actually what NAGA is using then my school will skip.

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    « Reply #21 on: October 26, 2008, 07:56:01 PM »

    Completely BS.

    To the guys who say - you are an adult - tap out.  Then what about slamming, fishhooking, small joint manipulation, eye gouge, etc...  These techniques are not striking.  You can just tap if it hurts.  If you believe that you are not welcome around me or my students.  If these rules are actually what NAGA is using then my school will skip.

    JM

    Right on.

    As an instructor, I feel a certain responsibility to look out for my students.  I would have concerns putting new students into that situation.  Especially the guys who need their ACLs for work or the guys without health insurance.

    Kosta is right too.  Newbies should be working on fundamentals.
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    « Reply #22 on: October 26, 2008, 07:58:18 PM »

    If these rules are actually what NAGA is using then my school will skip.

    JM

    From www.nagafighter.com:

    Ø            All Submission Techniques are legal (including heel hooks, knee locks, guillotine chokes etc.) except:

     NAGA ILLEGAL TECHNIQUES

    SPECIAL RULES FOR KIDS & TEENS:

    Ø        NO HEEL HOOKS allowed in the KIDS & TEEN divisions.

    Ø        NO SLAMMING from the Guard allowed in any of the KIDS & TEEN divisions.

    Ø        NO NECK CRANKS ALLOWED
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    « Reply #23 on: October 26, 2008, 08:04:41 PM »

    Said it before, and I'll say it again...NAGA sucks...
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    « Reply #24 on: October 26, 2008, 08:45:15 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?

    I think you meant to quote Kenny.

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    « Reply #25 on: October 26, 2008, 08:53:23 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?

    I think you meant to quote Kenny.

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    No, it's cool... I think maybe we've discovered some new kind of sparkle.
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    « Reply #26 on: October 26, 2008, 09:18:15 PM »

    This is craziness. It's an open invitation to injury. My students won't be at any NAGA event.
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    « Reply #27 on: October 26, 2008, 11:11:32 PM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?

    I think you meant to quote Kenny.

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    No, it's cool... I think maybe we've discovered some new kind of sparkle.


    hmmm, a "kebam" doesn't have much zing.  Do I need to change my nick to something cool?
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    « Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 12:05:49 AM »

    youre an adult. tap. every submission should be legal in adult divisions

    Can't say I agree with you there.

    then why have divisions?

     How long does it take to tap from pain from a bicep splicer if your forearm is already broke, from a heel hook if it's thrown on when you have not been grappling long enough to know what they even are, let alone recognize them on the fly in competition?

    I think you meant to quote Kenny.

    oops

    No, it's cool... I think maybe we've discovered some new kind of sparkle.


    hmmm, a "kebam" doesn't have much zing.  Do I need to change my nick to something cool?

    I think it's just as good as "sparkle" for all intensive purposes (in tents and purr-pussies).
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    « Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 12:21:07 AM »

    I personally will not do any NAGA tourneys.  I have trained the heel hook while in no gi but that was training and in controlled enviornment.  Have fun with that NAGA.
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