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[jho87]

I just started back jiu jitsu on Monday after a month of not training. Then Tuesday night I noticed that right after the instructional part of class my ears were going mute on both sides and would switch back and forth. Then during open mat, in the middle of my 2nd roll, I postured up and when I looked up the whole room was spinning REALLY bad. I tried to ignore it thinking that it might just be a blood rush from posturing up so fast, but the spinning continued until I was forced to stop. I laid down on the mat and the next thing I know, my instructor was shaking me to wake me up while my classmate was holding my feet to get the blood to flow to my head. I realized I had blacked out. I was still extremely dizzy afterwards and the only way I would feel better is if I rested my head against something. I manged to drive home and went to sleep. I woke up the next morning thinking last night might have just been caused my stress considering I haven't really slept in a month and only had 3 hrs of sleep Mon night and trained for 3 hrs on Tues, so I thought I was just over-doing it, but I woke up to find that the world around me was moving in slow-motion. I ate, did homework, and then got tired and decided to take a nap. As soon as I got up from my computer chair, the whole room started spinning like crazy, so I had to call my roommates to take me to the clinic. I went there and they ran some tests on me and told me I had to go to the Emergency Room. I went there and they told me I had vertigo and gave me medication. The medication didn't do sh*t, so they gave me another dose and it still didn't do anything. Then they prescribed a lower dose of Valium and I already took two today and it still isn't doing anything for me. I was reading online that if medication doesn't work then I will have to go through motion therapy which basically forces your body to move in a way where you'll feel worse for the time being, but it will get your body used to it so that you can deal with the spinning, so I was wondering if that means that I can still take jiu jitsu since it forces me to move around in a way where I'd feel worse for the time being, but in the long-run it'll make it better? But then again...if it's a calcium deposit in your ear canal...do you think that rolling around would make it get deeper in the ear canal or possibly get multiple deposits in there which in return would make my vertigo worse? i just can't stand being bed stricken and not being able to train or do anything and want to get back into the gym, so if it's safe to do so, then that would be great. Please let me know.

[Fredson Duff]

i'm not trying to be rude but could you please break your story into paragraphs for easier reading.

[jayman]

My wife was diagnosed with Vertigo about 5 years ago. Same symptoms. Before we knew what it was we were both pretty worried. The doctor had her on meclizine. She never took any Valium. The meclizine did help and in time the vertigo eventually went away. She was told that it can come back, but it was nothing to be concerned about as that is just the nature of the disorder. She has not had any recurrences since.

If you have Vertigo, you should be ok in time. But I am not a Doctor so make sure you keep getting checked out. Good luck.

[koreabjj]

Have you seen a neurologist of audiologist? Nothing in the ear canal would cause vertigo from what little I know. It means that something is wrong with the semi-circular canals in your inner ear. Most people have experienced an episode before. It happened to me once very briefly. It felt like I was doing summer saults while laying still on the bed. I would go see a doctor if I were you.

[JAGMD]

Meclizine is pretty much the first line drug for vertigo, but that's probably the medicine you most likely were given that you said didn't work.  See an ENT doc and get some rest.

[Nolan85]

Watch your sodium intake.

[BigJosh]

On the sodium subject, ask you doctor to check you for Meniere's Disease, I know a couple people that have it, and it can get pretty bad; but as long as you watch your salt intake most people that have it don't even need to take the medicine.

[rowdy]

I have meniere's disease myself. an audiologist first found the clues and an ENT did the final diagnosis.  Mine happened after being dropped on the floor while play fighting with my brother in law.

I was in college and the MRI after the concussion maxed me out on my student health insurance for the year which came back to bite me on something else.

Anyways, I now suffer very rarely from positional vertigo and am on no medication.

Though, I did have the positional therapy where they put me in all sorts of positions to get my "hair cells" and the crystals that float on them in my cochlea all back to "normal". While controversial and slow and a pain, this worked for me.

It took me about 2 years to get back to normal after my concussion and treatment.

How i felt at the time is as if i was in one of those carnival gyroscopes even though i was just standing still. I couldnt move my head the way that set it off at all. Ugh, it sucked.

[turkey sandwich]

Have you considered bungee jumping?

[Aerick911]

I took blood pressure pills and I would find they would cause the exact same type of symptoms you are having.  Doc changed BP meds, and now I never have a problem.

I would get the ear thing, feeling like I would feint, and my vision would get kind of blurry during class.

Anyhow...hope it helps, could be your BP is too low. 

[bjj_roosterweight]

I got a bad case of vergito last year that lasted for five days and severely affected my ability to train.  I was also prescribed meclizine, which helped when I was walking around town, but I still felt the room spin when I trained.

My ENT referred me for a a balance test, which was inconclusive about the cause.  Apparently, vertigo is most frequently caused by a viral infection in the ear, an inflammation in your inner ear, or loose "rocks" that are normally stationary in your inner ear.

Anyway, after about five days, it went away except when I trained.  After another three or four weeks, it went away almost completely.  If I do 10 rolls as part of the warmup, I feel it some.

I blog after every class, and this was true for my vertigo classes as well.  Here are some links folks with vertigo may find useful:
http://bjjblues.blogspot.com/2009/08/firm-and-vertigo.html
http://bjjblues.blogspot.com/2009/08/grappling-with-virtigo.html
http://bjjblues.blogspot.com/2009/08/benefits-of-vertigo.html
http://bjjblues.blogspot.com/2009/08/open-half-guard-pass.html

[Top Game]

Back in October, I was slammed straight down on the mats from about three feet in the air by  Leonardo Leite at the no-gi Pan Ams.  The following week, I got a very acute case of Vertigo.  The ENT's thought the "rocks" in my ear were disturbed due to the whiplash effect from the slam.  I went in for two "repositioning" treatments, where the ENT DR recreated the Vertigo over and over until I didn't notice it any more.  I had to adhere to some post treatment directions for a week.  This cleared everyting up completely. 

The only thinkg the meds do are control the symptoms, they don't make the problem better. If you've got what happended to me, then it's the best type of Vertigo to have, as it is the most treatable.  Get the rocks repositioned.

I've been rolling really hard 5-7 days a week since, and everything is ok.  Good luck with your treatment! 

Chris

[emb]

Your neurologist can refer you to PT for vestibular rehab. The sucess rates for properly diagnosed BPPV are very high. Depending on where you live you can a vestibular PT on the APTA website under "find a specialist"

[bjj_roosterweight]

I've now had a total of two bouts of vertigo (both lasted multiple days).  Meclizine does keep it under control, but I was able to "fix" it with the Epley Manuever in just a few minutes at home.  I put Merck's diagram of how to do this on my blog:

http://bjjblues.blogspot.com/2010/02/epley-maneuver-cures-vertigo.html

Wish I had known about the Epley manuever a year ago, it would have saved me a lot of time, trouble, and doctor visits.

[donegalpunk]

I used to get Vertigo.

Repaired this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_canal_dehiscence

i had it since i was 3 years old. Had it repaired about 5 years ago. Changed my life.

that was before BJJ.