Topic: The Standing Headlock Escape - Is this Correct?

[BeltJones]

This guy claims Royce Gracie taught him this headlock escape. I cannot imagine that he is remembering it correctly. Has anyone ever seen the headlock escape taught this way? It looks to me like a great way to slam your face on the ground.

http://youtu.be/7X6IDbtnNNI

[goatfury]

Does this dude run a gym down the street from you or something?

[BeltJones]

Ha. No. But I asked him about where he learned this headlock escape, because it looks wrong to me, and he said, "take it up with Royce Gracie - I learned it from him." I searched and searched but I can't find a single video of anyone doing a headlock escape this way, and it's certainly very different from the escapes I learned from Pedro Sauer back in the day.

[goatfury]

Ha. No. But I asked him about where he learned this headlock escape, because it looks wrong to me, and he said, "take it up with Royce Gracie - I learned it from him." I searched and searched but I can't find a single video of anyone doing a headlock escape this way, and it's certainly very different from the escapes I learned from Pedro Sauer back in the day.

Just struck me as odd to start an account here for the sole purpose of posting this awful technique.

[BeltJones]

That makes sense. I actually started this account back in 2005 when I was training a lot. I never posted (obviously), but I lurked a lot. Then work and injuries got in the way, but even though I haven't been training much except for off and on for the past few years I still follow the sport pretty closely. This guy is a firearms instructor with very dubious credentials and very questionable technique, and when I saw that he had some "grappling" instruction videos alarms immediately went off. I asked him about this one, and he said Royce Gracie taught it that way. To me, that looks nothing like any of the Gracie self defense techniques I remember seeing, and I wanted to see what the true expert's opinions were.

[goatfury]

That makes sense. I actually started this account back in 2005 when I was training a lot. I never posted (obviously), but I lurked a lot. Then work and injuries got in the way, but even though I haven't been training much except for off and on for the past few years I still follow the sport pretty closely. This guy is a firearms instructor with very dubious credentials and very questionable technique, and when I saw that he had some "grappling" instruction videos alarms immediately went off. I asked him about this one, and he said Royce Gracie taught it that way. To me, that looks nothing like any of the Gracie self defense techniques I remember seeing, and I wanted to see what the true expert's opinions were.

Well, I don't train at Gracie Academy in Torrance, so I am only peripherally an "expert" in this, but I've sure as hell been taught the old school Gracie Jiu Jitsu self defense stuff, and this is definitely not in the group of Helio's techniques as I understand them.

More importantly, it's really dumb when there are quite a few much better alternatives out there that are already established (EG, classic tani otoshi, yoko guruma, and "chicken wing" defenses that are normally taught in BJJ classes).

[vadrip]

What's to stop your face from hitting the ground if it's done at real speed, it's beyond terrible in my opinion.

[goatfury]

What's to stop your face from hitting the ground if it's done at real speed, it's beyond terrible in my opinion.

Obviously, you've never been in a life and death situation before.  The absolute best thing do to is faceplant really hard, being sure to draw lots of blood and potentially knocking yourself out.  This will confuse and frighten your attacker into leaving you alone.

[vadrip]

Of course it is, then you can sue the guy that started the altercation after waking from your own self induced concussion. Pure genius, goatfury.

[goatfury]

Of course it is, then you can sue the guy that started the altercation after waking from your own self induced concussion. Pure genius, goatfury.

Street fight + proper self defense technique = safety AND riches.