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WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« on: January 14, 2006, 10:28:17 PM »
Some of you guys may remember the fight we had with the WV AC awhile back when they tried to ban BJJ in West Virginia....

We won that case but the stuff that they are doing still has not stopped.

Tonight, one of our fighters was participating in a local "toughman" style event.  He had won the first night and was looking good to win the whole thing, which was a big deal to him because the winner receives 1,000$ and the runner up receives 500$.  However, he was told that he was being pulled from the event for previously fighting MMA.

He was told directly, "We really don't want your type here."

Of course, he questioned them pulling him because no one had ever heard of a rule like that.  So, he was then told we have also heard you fought a Pro kickboxing match (not true).

Everything they did was BS.

The fighter in question has just fought three Am. MMA fights and has fought one Am. kickboxing fight.  All of which have nothing to do with the rules of this event whatsoever.

After I was called at home with the news, I looked up the rules that the WVAC has posted and here is what it says:

Guess what... blatant lies by the WVAC once again.

Here are the rules:

45.1.Toughperson style contests shall be
considered semi-professional events.Due to the
unique nature of these events,the following
rules shall apply.Participants are not to be
considered professional boxers.

45.2.Qualification of contestants:
45.2.a.All contestants shall be at least
18 years of age or older.

45.2.b.Contestants cannot have any
previous professional boxing experience and cannot have over five sanctioned amateur bouts.


Of course, there is some more rules but none of them have to do with records, mma, or anything else.

Our fighter has never boxed PERIOD... am or pro!!!  The bouts that he did have were all Am (MMA and kickboxing) and have NOTHING to do with this event or the rules set forth by the WVAC.

So, was he taken out because the commission hates MMA?  I don't know but he clearly should not have been taken out, and considering their comments you have to wonder.

It appears that our state will give MMA, BJJ, kickboxing, and anything else that is not boxing (or toughman) as hard of a time as they can.

I don't think any martial art will be safe here for a long time.

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Re: WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2006, 09:42:23 AM »
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Re: WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2006, 01:38:44 PM »
No offense , but being from WV myself I hate to admit that sometimes they have a backwards way of thinking and it's just from the fact of being uninformed and going on something they may have heard.  I am not saying all people in WV are like this but everytime I visit it's like a step back in time and mentality.  I am totally sympathetic to your cause and if they actually ever sat through 2 matches of BJJ they would kicking themselves in the ass for acting so stupid and prejudice toward grappling.

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Re: WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 02:10:56 PM »
It still boggles my mind that the WV State Athletic Commission considers it OK to be hit in the head over and over, but if you get a choke on someone (where all they have to do is tap), it's all over.


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Re: WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 03:20:08 PM »
sorry to hear about that Butch  i dont see how they could force your guy to withdrawl without proof that he has broken some rules, ie.  a witness swearing that he saw your guy fight a pro fight or something to that effect.  the burden of proof is on them, not you.  if they claim something, the must prove it, not vice versa (please correct me if i'm wrong).  again, sorry to hear this happened, but since your guy did NOT break any rules, i bet you could sue them for damages (loss of fight purse)
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Re: WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2006, 07:25:35 AM »
It still boggles my mind that the WV State Athletic Commission considers it OK to be hit in the head over and over, but if you get a choke on someone (where all they have to do is tap), it's all over.

That's there mentallity.  Most educated people fully understand this concept.  I even provided facts from a Dr who did a study for Judo (although, I couldn't use them in court because I am not a Dr).

Craziness

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Re: WV State Athletic Commission problems once again!
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2006, 07:29:15 AM »
sorry to hear about that Butch  i dont see how they could force your guy to withdrawl without proof that he has broken some rules, ie.  a witness swearing that he saw your guy fight a pro fight or something to that effect.  the burden of proof is on them, not you.  if they claim something, the must prove it, not vice versa (please correct me if i'm wrong).  again, sorry to hear this happened, but since your guy did NOT break any rules, i bet you could sue them for damages (loss of fight purse)

I agree.  I think he was caught up in the situation and felt he had to go along with it.

Someone emailed the commissioner and, of course, we got a nice statement full of lies.  Supposedly, a "mysterious women" called and tipped him off to the fact that Adam is a pro kickboxer....lol.

Not only is he not pro, who would this mysterious woman be and why would you just take her word for it.  The more lies I hear the worse they look every day.